Friday, January 11, 2013

Chris Christie in 2016? It's Complicated

The governor of New Jersey has been getting a lot of good press lately. But is he really the kind of politician conservatives around the country want to vote for?
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/chris-christies-big-week-011113?src=soc_fcbks

10 comments:

free0352 said...

I would strongly consider it.

Snave said...

Great article... demented political party indeed!

I tend to think he is more the kind of candidate the left hopes doesn't run for president... he could be quite popular nationally by 2016 due to lots of props from a lazy media, and he COULD be one who could "paper over the bats in the belfry" as the author suggests.

Dave Splash said...

Republicans have been choosing terrible candidates for president, and they keep losing. Most parties would assess the situation, realize they are nominating candidates the public dislikes, and change strategies. Not the GOP! They increasingly want to double down on exactly what the country says - overwhelmingly - it does not like about the party. If the party continues on its course of tax cuts for millionaires, treating women like second class citizens who do not deserve control of their own bodies, and treating Latinos as if they are all illegal and need to produce their papers on demand, they will keep losing and losing.

Christie is a departure, and has more moderate positions on immigration, for example. Not sure where he is on women's health, but he is a proponent of trickle down economics.

Either way, the GOP is a doctrinaire party and its rabid and extremist base will not tolerate any deviating from the tea party agenda. Christie could win nationally, just as Huntsman probably could have, too. The party is too dumb to nominate the right person.

T. Paine said...

Christie has pros and cons for sure. I don't have a real warm and fuzzy on some of his anti-2nd amendment stances I have read. That may very well be a deal killer for me.

free0352 said...

Republicans have been choosing terrible candidates for president, and they keep losing

No arguement there!


Christie on the other hand would trounce Democrats. His election would be the biggest set-back to the Democrat party since Bush's win in 2004. I think he will run, I think if his opponent is Biden he would crush him. Besides, you Dems won't be too popular in 2016.

Dave Splash said...

Besides, you Dems won't be too popular in 2016.

sounds like...

Besides, you Dems won't be too popular in 2012.

sounds like...

Besides, you Dems won't be too popular in 2008.

More delusional, trapped in the right wing bubble thinking.

Keep it coming. It only helps us keep winning.

free0352 said...

I was saying Republicans would be none too popular in 2008, and i thought the gop was going to do worse than they did in 2012. Im actually pretty good at predicting these things Dave. For example i also predicted the repub lican wins in 2010 and 2004. Sounds to me you have a bad case of overconfidence, a bad trait in any competitive activity- politics being no different.

free0352 said...

I was saying Republicans would be none too popular in 2008, and i thought the gop was going to do worse than they did in 2012. Im actually pretty good at predicting these things Dave. For example i also predicted the repub lican wins in 2010 and 2004. Sounds to me you have a bad case of overconfidence, a bad trait in any competitive activity- politics being no different.

Dave Splash said...

It's not delusion, my friend free. Your party is demographically doomed in the future, and the tea party (who dominate all aspects of the Republican agenda) is strongly disliked by the American people. As long as the tea party controls the GOP, Christie (who is probably the R's best bet) will never get the nomination due to some of his positions.

There are plenty of things your party could do to rehab its image, but it has refused to do so, and in fact, rejects the very idea that they need to change. I hope they continue this line of thinking.

The American people don't like extremists, and that is what the GOP is now made of. They need to sever themselves from the tea party if they are to have any hope of winning a national election again.

clif said...

If the GOpers sever themselves from the teatards, they lose about 25-45% of their base, which dooms them to a rump political party AKA the Whigs in the 1850's