Friday, December 21, 2012

Tunnel Vision

"I only know what I hear on Fox News" of the scariest quotes ever.


clif said...

Teatards are a scary lot.

T. Paine said...

Ya wanna know what is even scarier? Those that think they can get honest and objective news from MS-NBC, any of the alphabet channel news coverages, CNN, The NY Time, Mother Jones, blah blah blah, etc. etc.

Snave said...

"Even scarier"? If you say that, you're wearing your bias on your sleeve. But if you are proud of your bias, that's OK.

I think if you were trying to be fair and balanced, you would have said "Ya wanna know what is *just as scary*?"

But what you said shows you actually have faith in FOX "News".

I don't know that I have faith in any of them any more. FOX is way to the right, MSNBC is way to the left, and the others are all afraid to report in depth on some of our more important news stories for fear of getting accused of being biased.

clif said...

Fox News the ONLY member of the media to ever go to court to tell their reporters to LIE, if they want to get paid.

jim marquis said...

I have to give MSNBC credit for their election coverage. They were way more on the mark than Fox. Of course, what do you expect when you consider Dick Morris and Sarah Palin experts on anything?

And I have to give props to CNN for the way they've covered the massacre in Newtown. Very touching.

free0352 said...

I admit FOX is bias, but its funny you can't do the same for MSNBC. Its the Fox news of the left.

free0352 said...

Not that it matters, most Democrats have "fake news" John Stewart doing their thinking for them anyway.

jim marquis said...

Oh, I admit MSNBC is biased. But it's also ten times more intelligent than FOX.

S.W. Anderson said...

Randolph Linn no doubt forms his opinions from the bilge Fox pumps out. But Linn's blame shifting cuts no ice.

"Linn claimed that he had consumed 45 beers in the 6 hours before leaving his Indiana home to set fire to the mosque, which he had discovered while working as a truck driver."

Linn is also a liar. He claims to have consumed a beer every eight minutes for six hours. First, no one who consumes a six pack in 48 minutes is capable of keeping an accurate count. Second, drinking at that rate, Linn would've suffered acute alcohol poisoning, either going unconscious, having a seizure, or both, from toxicity well before getting to 45 beers.

Bottom line: once Linn has done his time in jail, he needs some quality time in another kind of institution.

S.W. Anderson said...

MSNBC is definitely pro-Democratic and pro liberal. Acknowledging that is no problem, any more than noting water is wet is a problem. That said, MSNBC's hosts have been pointedly critical of Democrats at times and have raised serious questions about some of President Obama's decisions and policy choices. That kind of thing was unheard of on Fox when George W. Bush was president, and extremely rare on CNN.

There are important fundamental differences between what MSNBC does and how it operates and what Fox News does, and how it operates. MSNBC reports news straight, then comments on what it has reported. Even casual, not especially political viewers can tell when the reporting phase ends and the commenting phase begins. The boundary between facts and opinions is maintained well on MSNBC.

There is nothing wrong with expressing opinions about politics, politicians and public policy. There is something very wrong with a self-styled news channel whose hosts and guests routinely distort stories through omission of pertinent facts, twist facts and present opinions as facts — things Fox talkiing heads and their guests do routinely.

MSNBC's hosts must and do air corrections when they err on facts. They do clarifications when something they've said or reported turned out to be misleading, confusing or ambiguous. Corrections and clarifications are almost nonexistent on Fox, which is understandable. The channel and its guests have aired so much misinformation and disinformation so routinely for so long that if corrections were suddenly required, an hourlong corrections program would have to be added to the daily schedule.

MSNBC sets high standards in the choice of its sources and guests. Their background, associations and, therefore, their likely biases, are made clear as they're introduced. Fox has a history of citing questionable if not outright discredited sources, and regularly relies on the "expert" opinions of hacks like Dick Morris, crackpots like Glenn Beck, lobbyists and political "operatives."

People who get the bulk of their "news" from Fox are seeking red meat and misinformation that fits their comfort zone. They're doing to their mind and store of knowledge what a fool who gorges on pizza rolls, candy bars and soda pop for most of his nourishment is doing to his body.

free0352 said...

Oh please. Who cares. Everyone knows FOX news leans right. This is no secret. If you don't like it, don't watch it. FOX was the result of supply and demand. Republicans thought CNN was biased left, and so the geniuses at FOX came up with a network that would be biased their way. And it worked, it sells. MSMBC tried the same model with bias to the left and not surprisingly it sells as well. People want to hear what confirms their belief. As for CNN, it isn't biased either way on the American political spectrum. Its a wana-be BBC. It reflects a European viewpoint. The networks are bias left; but who cares? Not too many people watch them anymore, anyway.

clif said...

The networks are bias left;

No the Corporate Owned MSM has never been liberal in it's bias, just revealed a little too much honest reporting for the extreme right.

So Ailes and Murdoch puts together a very dishonest right wing propaganda network to use out right lies at times to spread very right wing view points and talking points as fact. This is probably why Fox news holds the distinction of going to court in the USA to force their paid prognosticators to lie on air if they wanna get paid. Ask Jane Akre and her husband Steve Wilson about how fox lies ......... and wants it's employees to do the same.

free0352 said...

just revealed a little too much honest reporting for the extreme right.

I mean with reporting like this how could I ever have doubted them?

Media sells a product. That is their mission. Thats FOX's mission, MSMBC's mission, the network's mission. All of it. Even NPR's mission. They have to make money. They have customers. They have to deliver what those customers want. Pure and simple. None of it is accurate, all of it is biased. Media is run by human beings, and humans are biased. All of them. Its human nature. Its how the media business works. Its the way it is, was, and always will be.

And so the fuck what? If you don't like what FOX is selling Mr. Customer, change the fucking channel, you'll love what Rachel Maddow and Patricia Fili-Krushel are selling over at MSNBC.

clif said...

Me thinks freebees panties are a bit too tight today,

he is in a foul mood.