Sunday, December 9, 2012

The Misunderstood Obama Voters

Who would ever have thought blacks would get out and support the first black president? Who would ever have thought women would shy away from the party of transvaginal probes? Who would ever have thought gays would work against a party that treated them as immoral and subhuman? Who would have ever thought young people would desert a party that ignored science and hectored on social issues? Who would ever have thought Latinos would scorn a party that expected them to finish up their chores and self-deport?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/opinion/sunday/dowd-a-lost-civilization.html?src=me&ref=general

5 comments:

Snave said...

I love the article! 8-)

I tend to think that a good deal of it is fantasy. It's fun to read, but of course declaring the GOP dead is about as erroneous as them declaring the left dead after the midterm elections in 2010.

As long as there are big power players behind the GOP, it will survive. The Democrats gave the GOP its John Kerry moment in 2012, and now we need to let the GOP know how the left felt in 2010 by doing the same to the right wing in 2014.

Obama did not win by a landslide, but the election results suggest to me that if the GOP wasn't in such disarray and so out of touch with so many Americans they might have won. People chose to stick with a not-so-great status quo rather than go with all the "bold new ideas". If more moderate and independent voters went for Obama instead of the Republicans, that suggests to me the GOP lost not because it "wasn't conservative enough", as some love to say, but rather because they were too far to the right, ran a poor candidate, and thought they had their finger on America's pulse (which they obviously did not).

2014 has to be first and foremost in the mind of the Democrats. We on the left can't sit back and gloat or rest for even a moment. Marco Rubio is already making stops in Iowa. Rubio and Ryan are out talking to important GOP groups. The Republican presidential campaign for 2016 is starting already.

I don't believe the left can make the GOP extinct, but we can certainly work to keep things trending away from the extreme right so that if the GOP still exists it is diminished. They are doing it to themselves, but we can stay "on message" and accelerate the increasing non-appeal of their agenda.

If the GOP guys who are farther to the right are the ones out there running for president already, fine. I won't worry as much until some of their more moderate guys start getting into the news.

And as for all the talk about Hillary Clinton already, I say let's see who is really going to be the best candidate. Personally, I'd rather see someone like Tim Kaine run.

But that's 2016. And right now for the Dems it's 2014 or bust!

jim marquis said...

You're absolutley right, Snave. The silliest thing in the world is to make pronouncements about the other party being dead.

However, I do think there's been sort of a paradigm shift. Support for gay marriage and pot legalization have moved into the mainstream. Concerns about climate change are being taken more seriously. The wealthy "job creator" talking point is being questioned. Immigration reform is on the table.

The GOP is far from dead. But it's future potency depends on how well it can adapt to the changing demographic.

free0352 said...

Both your takes on where the GOP was this year are totally wrong. The GOP elite are "moderate" as all get out. And by that I mean they will do anything to win. Say what ever. Romney was the most "moderate" republican to run in 40 years. The GOP thought that Romey was a shoe in for moderate and independant voters, and the base who hated him would fall in line due to their hatred of Obama. They had to pull Romney hard right to try to get them on board whwn it dawned on them it wasn't working but they were not successful and fewer registered republicans voted for Romney than McCain. The flaw of Romney and the GOP wasn't hard line or moderation but the attempt to be both at once and the lies that were told to prop up that myth. As for 2014 your party can't win, there will be massive lay offs all throgh 2013 as companies thin the ranks to avoid ObamaCare taxes. Its already started. We are in for another dip in this resession and blaming Bush or Congress won't work anymore. You guys now own the economy and you'll go down with it.

clif said...

GOpers keep spewing the same tired old bullshit they have for the last 30 years, too bad the middle class has woken up to the total screwing right wing ideology is for then.

Combined with coming demographic changes and the losing social based attacks on gay marriage and Hispanics, which along with the very dedicated push back against republican voter suppression effort, and their TRUE prospects ain't all that good,

except for gerrymandering they would have LOST the House.

Going forward, as long as they push the same exhausted memes they will continue to lose.

Especially if the growing scandal in Texas over comes the right wing establishment in that state;

Of Cancer and Crony Capitalism in Texas


Republican Gov. Rick Perry and his cronies in and out of public office have diverted funds intended for cutting-edge cancer research into the campaign pockets of Perry and Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. You read that right. Proceeds from millions in taxpayer-backed bonds awarded by the Cancer Prevention Research Institute of Texas (CPRIT) have fallen victim to corruption and cronyism. Cronies get the state money; the cronies give some of the money back to Perry and others.

The agency might better be named the Crony Capitalist Research Institute as searches for cancer prevention, treatment and cure are sacrificed to the feeble political ambitions of a few petty politicians and greedy plutocrats. It is hard to imagine a greater moral failing. Unless, of course, you remember that Perry and his cronies are the very same people fighting against the expansion of Medicaid and the creation of health care exchanges under the Affordable Care Act. People are going to get sick and die because of the actions of Perry and others. That is not hyperbole or political spin.


If the wingnut establishment in Texas falls, holding the house isn't even guaranteed, and any dreams of retaking the white house go up in smoke and indictments .......

clif said...

More wingnut shenanigans

..... this time in Alaska.